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    Why it is taking too long?
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    The last time I heared my father voice was one and a half years ago. The only way to communicate with him is by reading his thoughts ... And looking into his eyes... I wanted my father to express and speak out his thoughts using the eye gaze device but so far we failed as a family to convince him to use it. It is frustrating all of us ! The fact that we are unable to help him is crushing all of us. My father therapist is giving him tablets ease his depression. We have one question, how long is he going to be in this condition? He wants to know if he is not getting worse why is he not getting better ?
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    Manah, no one has said anything to your question.  You must miss talking to your father so very much.  Your whole family seems to need his guidance right now, and instead are being left making decisions for him instead.  There comes a terrible time late, late at night, when you realize that your parent, as your parent, is no longer here.  Maybe that is what is happening to you now.  It's a huge loss.  It happens slowly when their physical being is still with us, whether the loss happens by dementia, depression, mental illness, misuse of mind altering substances, mental exhaustion from chronic disease or pain.  Maybe your father can't say what he wants because he knows you aren't ready to take in the thoughts he has to express and that's why he doesn't use the device.  Your family hasn't failed your father, and you haven't failed in convincing him to use a communication device.  You are still it seems communicating with him by looking in his eyes.  When you look in his eyes be silent.  Hold his hand, sit with him, look in his eyes, accept his look and be silent.  Maybe that is all he has to say, that he wants acceptance right now.  I realize it's frustrating and that being unable to help change his situation is crushing your hearts and souls.  You can't do this for him, but you can be there with him, and love him regardless of how he chooses to respond to his situation (yes, I'm listening to myself).  Can't answer your question of how long he's going to be in this condition, which condition?  The one of not being able to communicate?  Or the one of depression?  Or the one of paralysis?  Can't say, I read a mother's post on CaringBridge today and she said "paralysis is fluid".  Depression can only be blunted with meds, but the underlying cause has to be dealt with or the depression remains and doesn't get better, it gets worse.  You seem to ask for him, but for your family also, why if he's not getting worse from the vent caused illness, the paralysis, from the depression he's not getting better.  Because, he just is stable.  Not better, not worse, just stable where he is right now.  There's sometimes no explaining stuff so we understand.  But it's not just your father.  My mom, who's an 81 year old quad 10 years post injury, won't try new devices that could allow her to keep in touch with her friends; she won't leave the house unless going to a doctor; she won't get hearing aids so she could communicate better with her caregivers and Dad and on the speaker phone; she won't think about anything and has checked out of their life - doesn't know what's in the fridge, no idea what bills are being paid or aren't, no idea what towels or sheets they have, can't tell you how her wheel chair works or what insurance pays for.  My mom has told me what she wants, very specifically, in two very candid conversations we've had, and it was what I expected but not what I wanted to hear.  I know that if she'd understood the outcome of her fall she wouldn't have called for help, and if she could figure out a way, she'd end her life.  She knows I can't actively help her do that.  In the meantime it's my responsibility to understand all I can about my parent's situation so I can help should something happen to my dad.  I'm so sorry for your sadness, your grief, your frustration, your feelings of "if we could just get him to try this.....it would be so much better.."  But I'm telling you, if he doesn't want to, you won't find anything that's going to help, and you're just going to make yourselves more sad.  Two years ago just before Christmas I had left her house after a day that ended in one of the serious talks.  When I voiced my concerns she'd told me to "F*** off.  Everything was just peachy."  While I drove to my cousin's where I was staying, I made the decision to stop worrying about it all because I couldn't change her, the situation, the interaction between my parents, their choices.  All I could do was change me, and my reactions to everything.  So I did.  That night and it's helped me tremendously.  So back to that late night many years ago when I realized that she's not Mom anymore.  I lost my mom when she fell and broke her neck.  I miss her so much I have no words to express it.  Find a support group for caregivers, seek therapy yourselves.  Then just sit with your dad, hold his hand and look into his eyes.  Accept him for where he is now.
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    nanaboombala  says:
    Great answer zuzu ! I'm so sorry for your loss...................both of youn !
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    Hi Manah,

    What you heard from zuzu highlights one of the most important issues here. She talked about her helplessness with her 81-year-old mother. That she was unable to do anything to make her life better even though she thought she had tools to do just that.

    As a psychologist, I try to find the human experience of the person writing the words. And when I try to put myself in your position, what comes up for me is anger (frustration), confusion, helplessness. And fear.

    And all of this is not to minimize the external reality that is so very painful for you and your whole family. But my great wish for you is that you sleep well at night, that you find yourself more comfortable (not necessarily happy, but comfortable) with the life you have right now. My wish is that you are able to hold your father through your eyes with love and tenderness (and it's okay to cry).

    If you don't mind, would you tell us a little bit about your dad?
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    Elie  says:
    Its happend everything is not in our hand,even though we try our level best,let him not to bother about nor think about it,he will be out of the depression really very soon,just let him know stop think over it . salvage cars auction
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    Manah said:
    The last time I heared my father voice was one and a half years ago. The only way to communicate with him is by reading his thoughts ... And looking into his eyes... I wanted my father to express and speak out his thoughts using the eye gaze device but so far we failed as a family to convince him to use it. It is frustrating all of us ! The fact that we are unable to help him is crushing all of us. My father therapist is giving him tablets ease his depression. We have one question, how long is he going to be in this condition? He wants to know if he is not getting worse why is he not getting better ?
    this Thanksgiving, I wish you and your father great love for one another. A kind of love that transcends words and gets expressed with touch or eye contact or even sharing favorite music. It's a kind of love where you can feel peaceful and grateful just to be in the moment you happen to be in.
    I deeply wish that for you and your father (and everyone else on this planet)
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