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    My name is Josh, a year and a half ago, my daughter, who was ten at the time, fell from some playground equipment which resulted in a blood clot on her spinal cord, she is a t3 paraplegic. I check her emotional and psychological state regularly and she is surprisingly upbeat and emotionally healthy, unfortunately I cannot say the same for myself- I have not recovered from her injury and I'm afraid I never will. As a father my heart is absolutely broken and I'll never be the same. I have experienced a pervasive depression since the day of her injury. She has always been a light in the darkness to me and my baby girl. I worry about her constantly- her health, her future. I worry that she will get a cold or the flu and contract pnuemonia. I worry that she will be treated poorly and looked down upon. I love my daughter more than anything in the world and i suffer for her daily. I have tried therapy but gave up after i couldnt find the correct therapist, I have trouble talking to anyone about it, and have been putting on a smile and an act of false confidence. This persistant, deep sadness invades every part of my life every minute of my day. I worry over her always, twice a week I dream that she begins walking.The quality of my mental and emotional state declines every day. I am overwhelmed with despondancy and worry. I only want to know that she is going to have a long life and be ok. I want someday to be happy and experience joy again. I desperately need some help.
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    Josh, you need Dr. Dan to reply to you, and he will soon.  He always moniters this board and will be respondng soon.  It's difficult when you know you need counseling help and can't seem to find someone who "clicks" with you.  Don't let that stop you from looking.  Keep asking around.  Check with your daughter's thearpists, her social worker, school counselors, people at church, county or city resources (211 is often a number to call for referrals of local governmental services) asking them for suggestions of someone to see.  You may want to talk to someone at the local hospice facility, they often provide grief services, sometimes for a sliding fee scale or free and they may be willing to help you or give a referral.  You are responding to grief of what both you and your daughter have lost because of her accident.  Kubler-Ross has written books about this, as have others, and the grief process is not easy, takes time and will take a toll on you emotionally and physically.  You must find a professional to help guide you through the process so that you can continue to be a strong, encouraging, leading father to your daughter and family.  You have a huge load to bear and you have a lot to learn about how to share that load with other willing helpers.  You especially have tons to learn about how to let your daughter live her own life as she knows it, and at her young age she may not feel she's "lost" anything, even thought you have an entirely different perspective.  It's obvious you care a great deal for her, and having someone who can help you move through the depression toward a place of positive energy to help your daughter move forward in her life will mean a great deal for both of you as she grows into a very abled young lady with her own dreams, talents, skills, hopes, accomplishments.  Just you wait til Dr. Dan replies, and you keep looking around.  You've started at a good place by posting here, call the resource line listed somewhere on this website (paralysis.org), and you will get the ears you need to listen.

    What has happened to your daughter makes little sense, but it happened.  Your plan for her isn't being followed anymore, but what is her plan for her now, and how will you help her achieve it?  Go, Daddy, go!
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    Hi Josh,

    I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. To this day, I remember the look on my parents face when they saw me in ICU several hours after I accident. I have never seen that look of anguish. Whenever I give a talk about disability I always say that I would rather be a quadriplegic then be the parent of one.

    But even more sad than their initial look of anguish was the fact that they suffered so much for the rest of their lives. When I first learned to write, to use a computer, to drive, they were still only able to see that all of those things where a struggle for me – even when they stopped being a struggle for me.

    They were unable to fully share and enjoy my successes and even my happiness-still they suffered. I guess some of it is inevitable. My daughter had a life-threatening crisis when she was in college. She's doing much better 15 years later, but I can feel my anxiety go up every time her voice changes or I can see that she is buried feelings. It's the way we parents are wired – that's how our species survived.

    So you're suffering is understandable, maybe inevitable. But your obsessive preoccupation is not inevitable. When we are traumatized, sometimes an image or thought gets stuck in a circular loop in our brain that doesn't have an off switch. It's kind of like when you have a cavity and you can't stop putting your tongue in the whole even though it hurts every time.

    So I have a couple of thoughts about that endless loop in your head. On the one hand, this is an anxiety disorder that is treated with cognitive behavioral therapy. But my style is to look a bit further. My guess is that you are raising mind is all about trying to manage emotions that feel over whelming to you. If you could feel and tolerate the feelings, it would be terribly painful but your mind might stop raising.

    In order to do that, you have to find a place of safety with a wise and gentle guide. You have not done well with psychologists. These days, many psychologists are more about techniques than the human heart. Sad. If you are willing, you could go to the American Association of family therapy website and find a good family therapist near you.

    The other thing you could do is to connect with a rehab hospital near you that might have a support group for parents. I know Baylor Hospital in Dallas has a wonderful reputation. There is also the Texas rehabilitation center in Houston. I have no idea how far these places are for you. (I live in New Jersey and everything is less than two hours away. I'm thinking that's not the case in Texas!)

    A couple of final thoughts. First, keep in touch with us as you will find kindred spirits on these pages. And you will also see a kind of resilience hear that all humans have. And you will come to trust that your daughter and her father both have resilient spirits.

    And remember, all pain is where yesterday used to be.

    Please take care. Please
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    hi Josh,

    my name is deborah, C4-C5 hemi-plegic. this is what I did to save my life...it worked like a miracle.

    Give Thanks in All Things...everyday i wrote a gratitude list. no matter how sick i was or how much pain i suffered through, each nite or day, i wrote a long gratitude list. & somedays things were soooo bad, i forced myself to write. i knew i would benefit from it & believe me, miracles happened. try it, worth a try.

    best wishes & blessings, deborah
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    I just wanted to say Hi, and that (we) are here to hear you and help.  My boyfriend became paralized in August, a result of a fall from a tree.  This is the first place I turned to for help and support, and I dont think there is one better!  We are new at this, 4 months out, but if there are any questions I can help with, I will try.  Being positive, and knowing that life is not over, just different, has made the world of difference to us.  Just today, we modified our lawn mower, and he was able to mow the leaves!!  It took more work, but it was soo worth it to see him on there mowing, just like he used to! It brought tears to my eyes.   Please continue to post on this site, as it has been a Godsend to us.  I am sorry for your struggles, but there are people that have, and are going through what you are going through. YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
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    Hi!   May I ask what a hemi plegic is?  I just have not heard that term before?  ( or yet)
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    Deborah Lynn said:
    hi Josh,

    my name is deborah, C4-C5 hemi-plegic. this is what I did to save my life...it worked like a miracle.

    Give Thanks in All Things...everyday i wrote a gratitude list. no matter how sick i was or how much pain i suffered through, each nite or day, i wrote a long gratitude list. & somedays things were soooo bad, i forced myself to write. i knew i would benefit from it & believe me, miracles happened. try it, worth a try.

    best wishes & blessings, deborah
    Hi Deborah,
    not only did keeping a gratitude journal help you, there is lots of research now showing how keeping gratitude journals can have an impact on one's sense of well-being and even help diminish depression. But timing is everything. And whenever we experience a loss, we inevitably feel frightened, sad, alone and betrayed by life itself. Tough to feel gratitude when you are being knocked around by an emotional tsunami.
    But like the snow globes, eventually things settle if they are left still. And when they settle, we can open up to the lives we have as opposed to wishing for the lives we want.

    I have experienced this with everyone of my losses. And now as I age and problems start to accumulate, I feel even more grateful for more things – my family, my friends, being able to breathe without coughing, every day I don't wet my pants makes me happy! But most of all, I am grateful for the fact that I have a life.

    But like I said, timing is everything and we have to be able to feel everything we feel and allowed to wash over us and through us.

    Happy for you Deborah!
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    ChristinaD said:
    I just wanted to say Hi, and that (we) are here to hear you and help.  My boyfriend became paralized in August, a result of a fall from a tree.  This is the first place I turned to for help and support, and I dont think there is one better!  We are new at this, 4 months out, but if there are any questions I can help with, I will try.  Being positive, and knowing that life is not over, just different, has made the world of difference to us.  Just today, we modified our lawn mower, and he was able to mow the leaves!!  It took more work, but it was soo worth it to see him on there mowing, just like he used to! It brought tears to my eyes.   Please continue to post on this site, as it has been a Godsend to us.  I am sorry for your struggles, but there are people that have, and are going through what you are going through. YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
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    hi Christina,

    After all is said and done, the only way any of us get through any adversity is through the loving care of others. Your boyfriend is so very fortunate to have someone as kind and compassionate as you. And please know that your kindness can be habit forming!

    Please take care
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    Hi Josh, I am so there with you.  My daughter was 13 when she was in a quad accident; she is now just turned 17.  I never left my beautiful daughter's side while in the hospital, throughout PT, OT and mental health therapy.  At 13, she was a cheerleader, had many friends, communicative and was ready in 2 days to sign up for varsity football and that never came.  Unfortunately, my girl was never responsive to any MH therapy/counseling and I took all her emotional pain. I too am going through some serious depression. Not only has my daughters and our lives changed completely, but all our hopes and dreams have been scewed. I no longer wish to go on motorcycle rides with my husband for I fear we will be in an accident and who is going to make sure my girl adjusts and becomes successful in life, has the ability to adjust and live on her own, goes to college, etc.  I am a prisoner of my daughter's well-being and dependent upon making sure she can be independent as an adult. There is a diffference in your child that I don't have.  You state that you check the emotional well-being of your girl daily.  Is she happy and adjusting?  Are you keeping her social activities going?  My experience is if she's happy, take that and run with it.  Be happy with her and celebrate her successes.  You'll have a whole new set of problems when she becomes a tween...some will be natural and others will be due to her disability.  Have her try everything in life at least once and don't let anything hold her back if you, as the parent, can make it happen.  I have been trying to gett my daughter counseling/ therapy since the accident and she was resistent to all until this week. We travel 2 hours to a behavioral sciences facility and I think the healing for our family might finally begin.  I'm very optimistic. My daughter is talking, crying and willing to find solutions to getting on with her life.  She has never accepted losing the ability to walk and she, as I, feel cheated on life.  There is always a reason why things happen, they say, but I have never found that reason, as of yet.  I have worked with families that have children with disabilities for the past 6.5 years.  There was a reason was I was doing that work before my daughter become paralyzed.  See, there is a reason for everything.  Your daughter or you just might do/become someone that makes a difference in this world.  I wish you both happiness, well-being and success in finding what your journey is in the schema of things. I'm still finding my way as a parent, also. *hugs* to your family and your beautiful daughter.
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    Hi Josh, I am so there with you.  My daughter was 13 when she was in a quad accident; she is now just turned 17.  I never left my beautiful daughter's side while in the hospital, throughout PT, OT and mental health therapy.  At 13, she was a cheerleader, had many friends, communicative and was ready in 2 days to sign up for varsity football and that never came.  Unfortunately, my girl was never responsive to any MH therapy/counseling and I took all her emotional pain. I too am going through some serious depression. Not only has my daughters and our lives changed completely, but all our hopes and dreams have been scewed. I no longer wish to go on motorcycle rides with my husband for I fear we will be in an accident and who is going to make sure my girl adjusts and becomes successful in life, has the ability to adjust and live on her own, goes to college, etc.  I am a prisoner of my daughter's well-being and dependent upon making sure she can be independent as an adult. There is a diffference in your child that I don't have.  You state that you check the emotional well-being of your girl daily.  Is she happy and adjusting?  Are you keeping her social activities going?  My experience is if she's happy, take that and run with it.  Be happy with her and celebrate her successes.  You'll have a whole new set of problems when she becomes a tween...some will be natural and others will be due to her disability.  Have her try everything in life at least once and don't let anything hold her back if you, as the parent, can make it happen.  I have been trying to gett my daughter counseling/ therapy since the accident and she was resistent to all until this week. We travel 2 hours to a behavioral sciences facility and I think the healing for our family might finally begin.  I'm very optimistic. My daughter is talking, crying and willing to find solutions to getting on with her life.  She has never accepted losing the ability to walk and she, as I, feel cheated on life.  There is always a reason why things happen, they say, but I have never found that reason, as of yet.  I have worked with families that have children with disabilities for the past 6.5 years.  There was a reason was I was doing that work before my daughter become paralyzed.  See, there is a reason for everything.  Your daughter or you just might do/become someone that makes a difference in this world.  I wish you both happiness, well-being and success in finding what your journey is in the schema of things. I'm still finding my way as a parent, also. *hugs* to your family and your beautiful daughter.
    Hi Vicki,

    So much of our suffering is about unresolved mourning. How do we mourn the loss of our dreams and expectations for the future? How do we let go of what we thought we had, who we thought we were? Vicki, you and your daughter are morning the same losses in very different ways.
    Loved ones usually shed tears first. My family suffered greatly for me, with me and for themselves after my accident. I suffered with my broken body and my broken heart. I didn't cry four months. I didn't experience depression and grief for years.

    Maybe your daughter is finally settling in to her life and has the stability to open her heart and cry and look for guidance. That can only happen when we feel stable enough. Until that happens, everything feels frightening and we close off – even to possibilities.

    And as a mother, you want to push her towards happiness and well-being. But whenever we push anyone, they feel more alone in the world. Something probably you and your daughter both feel.

    Sometimes when I counsel a divorcing family, I encourage all parents and children to take something that represented this family to them and put it in a box. And then I have them go in there backyard or a neighborhood park (don't tell anyone I said that) and have them each say something about what this family meant to them and then bury the box. It is very painful, and very healing at the same time.

    I would hope that in counseling, you and your daughter could mourn together. Nothing will break and no one will get worse but the two of you might get closer.

    There is a folksong named "Miles away" in which the singer laments that he is going through a terrible crisis now and he is suffering. Then he says "I know I will learn a lot about myself from this, I will talk about it a lot and I will be a changed person. But right now I am miles away.
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    I am paralyzed and I'm a father I know how you feel and I worry about my children everyday because they were taken from me and moved to the east coast but I am always strong and do my best to show them that they have to try and even if they fail they have nothing to worry about because I will be so proud of them because they gave it their best and that's all that matters just encourage her and show her that you love her and she will never let you down that's what keeps me going is my kids I promise that will truly help with the depression
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